====================================================================== IBIS INTERCONNECT MODELING AD HOC TASK GROUP MEETING MINUTES Meeting Date: March 7, 2007 http://www.eda.org/ibis/adhoc/interconnect/ Mailing list: ibis-interconn@freelists.org Attendees: ---------- (* denotes present) Agilent - Radek Biernacki* Ansoft - Andrew Byers*, Michael Slavkin* Intel - Michael Mirmak* Mentor Graphics Corp. - John Angulo*, Vladimir Dmitriev-Zdorov* Sigrity - Sam Chitwood* Teraspeed Consulting Group - Bob Ross* ====================================================================== Next Meeting: Wednesday, April 4, 2007 Telephone Bridge Passcode 916-356-2663 4 645-2930 LiveMeeting Details: Subject: IBIS Ad Hoc Interconnect Team Meeting URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/intel/join Meeting ID: BTBH4Q Meeting Key: r!s74T5Zs Agenda: - Call for patent disclosures - Opens - Review of updated Touchstone(R) draft ======================================================================== No opens were raised. On IIRD9, Sam noted that ground and power terminals are often shorted in early rounds of simulations for solution space investigations using S-parameters on packages. Bob expressed a desire to distinguish between signals, ports and terminals. These will be clarified in the next draft through examples, with both shorting and non-shorted cases distinguished. Review of the updated Touchstone draft continued. Based on comments from the participants, normalization is to be removed for network data and also for noise resistance. Vladimir noted that the reference impedance is in fact only needed for S-parameters. Vladimir and Michael Slavkin added that normalization applies for G, H, Y and Z parameters, not for S-parameters. ARs ----- Sam - provide a simple drawing of "virtual reference" case Michael - create IIRD9 examples showing combinations of terminals and ports for power and ground Michael - update IIRD9 draft with changes for final review next time Team Objectives: 1) complete ICM-IBIS linking BIRD and any associated changes to the ICM specification 2) update the ICM specification, if needed, to clarify the mapping of ICM nodes to S-parameter ports 3) complete a specification for "Touchstone Plus" or similar industry-standard definition for Touchstone-like files, to include complex impedance references, removal of limits on the maximum number of ports and per-port impedance references